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Patti Z

Advanced Diver

Pleasant Hill, CA

Topic Author

60 posts since

Aug 11, 2009

Dryland

Nov 11, 2009

Is there a single dryland exercise you find most beneficial to your diving? Is so what is it and why?

Tom Papp

Advanced Diver

Lincoln Park, MI

9 posts since

Apr 07, 2010

#1 response to:Dryland

Apr 07, 2010


 

single? no.

dryland? sort of.

my divers now do teardrop jumps from the side of the pool in both the forward and backward positions. they have helped tremendously with balance, control, and confidence for the 201 and 301b's. great drills for those without spotting equipment.

tom - tomdiving@yahoo.com


Patti Z

Advanced Diver

Pleasant Hill, CA

Topic Author

60 posts since

Aug 11, 2009

#2 In response to:Dryland

Apr 08, 2010

Tom Papp

 

single? no.

dryland? sort of.

my divers now do teardrop jumps from the side of the pool in both the forward and backward positions. they have helped tremendously with balance, control, and confidence for the 201 and 301b's. great drills for those without spotting equipment.

tom - tomdiving@yahoo.com


Thanks Tom for commenting on this post! Really glad to see a diving coach on this site!

Teardrop jumps -- are those "V" sit jumps? I remember doing multiple "V" sit jumps prior to doing 301B off 10. It absolutely helped with balance and control. Love to know if that is what teardrop jumps are.

As far as spotting equipment -- if you don't have access -- do you go to other teams that do? I remember not having a bubble system and we would use another team's pool on a sunday to learn new dives in the bubble. Just curious.

Also how important would you say spotting equipment is to diving these days? I now see spotting rigs over diving boards-- I would think that is a great way to learn a dive into the water without the fear of getting lost or smacking. Would love to hear your thoughts.

Patti - swim.com diving guru


Tom Papp

Advanced Diver

Lincoln Park, MI

9 posts since

Apr 07, 2010

#3 response to:Dryland

Apr 08, 2010

Patti Ziemke

Tom Papp

 

single? no.

dryland? sort of.

my divers now do teardrop jumps from the side of the pool in both the forward and backward positions. they have helped tremendously with balance, control, and confidence for the 201 and 301b's. great drills for those without spotting equipment.

tom - tomdiving@yahoo.com


Thanks Tom for commenting on this post! Really glad to see a diving coach on this site!

 

Teardrop jumps -- are those "V" sit jumps? I remember doing multiple "V" sit jumps prior to doing 301B off 10. It absolutely helped with balance and control. Love to know if that is what teardrop jumps are.

As far as spotting equipment -- if you don't have access -- do you go to other teams that do? I remember not having a bubble system and we would use another team's pool on a sunday to learn new dives in the bubble. Just curious.

Also how important would you say spotting equipment is to diving these days? I now see spotting rigs over diving boards-- I would think that is a great way to learn a dive into the water without the fear of getting lost or smacking. Would love to hear your thoughts.

Patti - swim.com diving guru


 

 

 

 hey

 yep, teardrops and v sit jumps would be one and the same.

 as for spotting equipment - i work with many levels of divers at various locations in southeast michigan.  one of the usdiving clubs that i work for has a bubbler, spotted tramps,  spotted dryboards,  spotted 1 and 3 meter wetboards, and even a rig over the 5 meter tower. the typical progression is to learn the dive in belts on the tramp, then move it to the dryboard so it's more like the real dive, then to the spotted 1 or 3 meter, then in the bubbler without the belt. it happens when it happens. it may take a day, a week, a month, maybe 6 months, depending on the physical and mental capabilities of the particular diver and the difficulty of the dive being learned.

 i would certainly say that the equipment is a big part of why that club is the best in michigan, by far. it doesn't hurt, though , that the head coach has a handful of tremendously talented assistant coaches in his program.

 you want to compete well at a high level? it won't happen without spotting equipment in this day and age. anyone can learn far faster, far easier, without the high level of fear attached.

 i also work for another club that has been totally free for over 20 years. with 3 volunteer coaches, 2 lowboards, (one spotted) a spotted tramp, and a spotted dryboard, any diver that i work with at any of my other locations has the option to go there at any time. not surprisingly, my better divers take advantage of that.  one thing's for sure, you'll never have a diver say that working on dives, or parts of dives, in a belt was a waste of their time.

 tom


Patti Z

Advanced Diver

Pleasant Hill, CA

Topic Author

60 posts since

Aug 11, 2009

#4 In response to:Dryland

Apr 09, 2010

Tom Papp

Patti Ziemke

Tom Papp

 

single? no.

dryland? sort of.

my divers now do teardrop jumps from the side of the pool in both the forward and backward positions. they have helped tremendously with balance, control, and confidence for the 201 and 301b's. great drills for those without spotting equipment.

tom - tomdiving@yahoo.com


Thanks Tom for commenting on this post! Really glad to see a diving coach on this site!

 

Teardrop jumps -- are those "V" sit jumps? I remember doing multiple "V" sit jumps prior to doing 301B off 10. It absolutely helped with balance and control. Love to know if that is what teardrop jumps are.

As far as spotting equipment -- if you don't have access -- do you go to other teams that do? I remember not having a bubble system and we would use another team's pool on a sunday to learn new dives in the bubble. Just curious.

Also how important would you say spotting equipment is to diving these days? I now see spotting rigs over diving boards-- I would think that is a great way to learn a dive into the water without the fear of getting lost or smacking. Would love to hear your thoughts.

Patti - swim.com diving guru

 

 

 hey

 yep, teardrops and v sit jumps would be one and the same.

 as for spotting equipment - i work with many levels of divers at various locations in southeast michigan.  one of the usdiving clubs that i work for has a bubbler, spotted tramps,  spotted dryboards,  spotted 1 and 3 meter wetboards, and even a rig over the 5 meter tower. the typical progression is to learn the dive in belts on the tramp, then move it to the dryboard so it's more like the real dive, then to the spotted 1 or 3 meter, then in the bubbler without the belt. it happens when it happens. it may take a day, a week, a month, maybe 6 months, depending on the physical and mental capabilities of the particular diver and the difficulty of the dive being learned.

 i would certainly say that the equipment is a big part of why that club is the best in michigan, by far. it doesn't hurt, though , that the head coach has a handful of tremendously talented assistant coaches in his program.

 you want to compete well at a high level? it won't happen without spotting equipment in this day and age. anyone can learn far faster, far easier, without the high level of fear attached.

 i also work for another club that has been totally free for over 20 years. with 3 volunteer coaches, 2 lowboards, (one spotted) a spotted tramp, and a spotted dryboard, any diver that i work with at any of my other locations has the option to go there at any time. not surprisingly, my better divers take advantage of that.  one thing's for sure, you'll never have a diver say that working on dives, or parts of dives, in a belt was a waste of their time.

 tom


Awesome information - Thanks!

I agree, taking the fear out of learning new dives helps a lot. The use of dryland equipment seems not only helpful when learning a new dive, but also learning to pick up spots, and perfecting dives that you already know how to perform.

By the way, do you know how you get trained to operate spotting equipment? Is there classes available, or is it something a mentor coach teaches someone, or perhaps both? Belt work has become so important, I'm just curious if there are training classes or not.

I think a "Free" diving club is amazing! How fantastic that coaches are willing to offer their time - I wish there was more of that in this day and age. If it isn't listed under the team section on swim.com, you should enter it as a new team - let others know about it.


Tom Papp

Advanced Diver

Lincoln Park, MI

9 posts since

Apr 07, 2010

#5 response to:Dryland

Apr 09, 2010


 

usadiving.org has a spotting video from dick kimball available. usdiving offers spotting classes, but you have to be a usdiving member coach to get into the classes. even after the classes, the new spotter is just going to spend some hands-on time getting the feel of the process.

 it's much easier on the new spotter to learn if you start with someone small and quick that can already spin multiple somersaults. i do not know of any coaches that can belt spot in my area that would hesitate to help another coach that is interested in learning to spot. i'll assume that idea would be nation-wide.


Patti Z

Advanced Diver

Pleasant Hill, CA

Topic Author

60 posts since

Aug 11, 2009

#6 In response to:Dryland

Apr 12, 2010

Tom Papp

 

usadiving.org has a spotting video from dick kimball available. usdiving offers spotting classes, but you have to be a usdiving member coach to get into the classes. even after the classes, the new spotter is just going to spend some hands-on time getting the feel of the process.

 it's much easier on the new spotter to learn if you start with someone small and quick that can already spin multiple somersaults. i do not know of any coaches that can belt spot in my area that would hesitate to help another coach that is interested in learning to spot. i'll assume that idea would be nation-wide.


For me, I need hands-on training in order to learn. I would think that most people fall into the same category. 

I absolutely agree with you that most coaches would help another in learning the proper way to spot. Diving is a community and I have found that teams are willing to help other teams. It is a big part of what makes diving so fantastic! Thanks for the information... I think it can really help others who are interested in getting started.
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