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Chris M

Oakland, CA

Topic Author

47 posts since

May 07, 2010

Diving is scary.

May 20, 2010

Hey everyone. So I'm not too scared of heights, and I'm not scared of deep water or anything like that. But I am SO intimidated by diving head first into a pool. The only time I tried it, I was afraid I wasn't going to commit, and end up bellyflopping. So I overcompensated, and my feet went past my head and I landed on my back in the water, which obviously wasn't a great feeling. I just can't fathom controling the angle of my body when I'm falling. Any advise for a timid diver like me?

Patti Z

Advanced Diver

Pleasant Hill, CA

60 posts since

Aug 11, 2009

#1 response to:Diving is scary.

May 21, 2010

It is scary diving head first into a pool. That is why you see many young children put their hands over their head, lean over towards the water and jump feet first into the pool. This goes for adults too. Especially if you have had a bad experience as you describe above.

The best advice I can give is to try again. Start at the side of the pool - if diving off the side isn't a problem, move it up to the 1-meter. Try doing the dive from a standing position. Stand at the end of the board, lean over and aim for the water. Many times a "belly-flop" occurs when the diver lifts his head before entering the water. The head is the heaviest part of the body -- where the head goes, the body will follow. Same is true if you duck your head too hard. This will make the dive over-rotate. Just keep your head neutral, aim for the bottom of the pool and try to do a handstand into the water.

Once you are comfortable diving from a standing position, try diving from a standing position with a jump. Stand at the end of the board, put your hands above your head, jump off the board and dive into the water. Focus on jumping up  and getting your hips into the air. While in the air, lean your body forward and aim for the water in a handstand position. The key is to focus on jumping up with your hips over your shoulders. Try not to throw your body down towards the water as this will make you over-rotate.

Just remember to aim for the bottom of the pool, keep your head neutral and and try to do a handstand into the water. It may take a while, but keep trying and you will get it!


Chris M

Oakland, CA

Topic Author

47 posts since

May 07, 2010

#2 In response to:Diving is scary.

May 21, 2010


What you said about the body following the head is a really helpful way to think about it, as is the image of the hips being above the shoulders. I think the next time I'm at the pool, I'll feel confident enough to start trying to dive again.

 

Thanks Patti!


Craig Kreutzberg

Concord, CA

94 posts since

Feb 08, 2010

#3 response to:Diving is scary.

May 25, 2010

I remember learning to swim/dive at a really young age, and I had a similar issue.  Someone told me that sometimes it's easier to get the angle right if you dive from a little bit of a hop; for whatever reason, that made it easier for me to get my head down quicker and at the proper angle. 


Mroz Atysix

New Diver

Newport, OR

6 posts since

Aug 03, 2010

#4 In response to:Diving is scary.

Aug 03, 2010


just starting to try diving after my first attempt off the board which resulted in the perfect SMACK!!!!welts and all at, as far as my memory will allow, after the blackout, age 12, i had a very deep respect for H2O.  This might have something to do with being quite uncomfortable at hights above 4 inches. then there was the boating, swimming, showing off at the lake (very long way to the bottom) drowning incident,(another blackout, but a really neat memory) but one that I don't want to experience again not for a while yet. There was an electrocution black out while standing in water and a hot wire.  Did 3 jumps off the 1 meter board feet first, wasn''t bad jumping, standing at the end of the board and taking a step with a baby bounce, what would that be a riding the bouncy baby board (BBB)? was shakey on one and two, was't the water, not really the height, just the idea somehow of being off the tera, king of KETHER if you will, between ........then really kind of felt like it was ?  Fiqured i stop after the third jump, still just trying to develop land training skills, flat hand, posture, form, balance,,,,,...liked the reply about head first.  Thinking of giving it a try when ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,it feels right.  Does that make sense?  And even though the pool is inside, if theres a thunderstorm going on, i'm not even getting out of the car.

 


Patti Z

Advanced Diver

Pleasant Hill, CA

60 posts since

Aug 11, 2009

#5 response to:Diving is scary.

Aug 03, 2010

Wow Mroz -- It sounds like you have been through a lot! I could see where you are hesitant! I'm glad you are willing to try again. Just remember to take it slow. Jump several times - feel confident with the height and the pool and then try to dive. Start from a standing position from the side of the pool and then move up to the diving board. Even squat down at the end of the diving board and roll into the water. If you keep working at it, eventually you will get it!

Good luck! Keep us posted -- would love to hear how it goes!


Mroz Atysix

New Diver

Newport, OR

6 posts since

Aug 03, 2010

#6 In response to:Diving is scary.

Aug 04, 2010


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Today was really a neat beginning. I wasn't able to get on the board to roll-in off the board for a dive, to many people.  As far as diving off the edge of the pool, the pool I'm at doesn't allow diving from the side of the pool, to shallow I'm told. So instead I put on a auqa belt (the life gaurd suggested it) and did my normal warm up streaching, flex, and form.  It really does help a WHOLE lot wearing a belt because now i can concentrate on what muscles, arms, legs, toes, ect. without having to try and stay above water.  As far as what you said in a previous comment to ? about diving with the head first and the body will follow, I tried that while floating with the belt and would you believe that while floating in the water hands at side (remember form) and the toes, that which ever way I pointed or tilted my head my submerged body would respond accordingly. try it, its kind of neat and some folks can't quite fiqure out just what I'm doing or how.  Part of my warm up involves some intense leg streaches because of a groin tear about 6 months ago, so I can't be jumping up and down right now well anyway, but while in the water I can get all the practice, kind of slow motion but still the same basic muscles and moves, and what I think is understated, as with a lot of things, mind. I would like to know if there is a correct way to make a simple land board to practice riding?  Mroz


Patti Z

Advanced Diver

Pleasant Hill, CA

60 posts since

Aug 11, 2009

#7 response to:Diving is scary.

Aug 05, 2010

Thanks for getting back to us! I'm glad you were able to get in the pool and get a work-out accomplished. I've never heard of working with an aqua belt in the water (for springboard diving) - but I'm glad it worked so well for you! Stretching is so important - it helps ward off injury and it makes it so your body is more flexible. I would definitely give your injury time to heal before doing any type of jumping up & down on the board.

I'm not sure I understand your last question. Are you asking how you can practice bouncing the diving board? Or are you asking how to practice riding the diving board? If you could clarify that, I'd be happy to help in any way I can. -Patti


Mroz Atysix

New Diver

Newport, OR

6 posts since

Aug 03, 2010

#8 In response to:Diving is scary.

Aug 08, 2010


 

I've seen the vidios on how to ride the board while over water.  What i was wondering was if there is anything that i could put together that i have around the house and yard that i could throw together to practice dry land training of riding the board if there is such a thing.  Right now i'm standing on a couple of 2x4 about 4'' above ground stationary, is there someway of using something with a bounce or would that take away from the proper way to go about getting mind,balance set?


Patti Z

Advanced Diver

Pleasant Hill, CA

60 posts since

Aug 11, 2009

#9 response to:Diving is scary.

Aug 09, 2010

Mroz Atysix


 

I've seen the vidios on how to ride the board while over water.  What i was wondering was if there is anything that i could put together that i have around the house and yard that i could throw together to practice dry land training of riding the board if there is such a thing.  Right now i'm standing on a couple of 2x4 about 4'' above ground stationary, is there someway of using something with a bounce or would that take away from the proper way to go about getting mind,balance set?


Dryland training is a great resource to practice the fundamental components of diving. As far as riding the board, and getting the timing correct - which is the difficult part -- you need to practice on an actual diving board. Either a dryboard, or a board over the water are the best choices. Even a trampoline can help with timing a bit, but not nearly as accurately as an actual diving board.I realize these are not easily located around your house, so they may not be feasible.

Another suggestion would be to get what is called a "carpet board." A carpet board is essentially a piece of carpet that is designed to look like a springboard over water. It gives the illusion of being on a diving board, without the actual board. Although it won't help you with the actual timing of riding the board, you can practice your forward and back approaches on it and it can help you with balance and control. They sell for around $70.

You can also practice leg squats or other leg building exercises. This will build your muscles and give you the necessary strength to gain maximum height off the board. Doing multiple sit-ups, pike-ups, tuck-ups or other core strength exercises are also good options to work on outside of the water. In addition doing some plyometric exercises, such as jumping back and forth over an imaginary line, can help you gain quick reacting and explosive jumping agility. Again these exercises won't help you with the timing of "riding the board," but they will prepare your body for the task at hand once you are able to get on an actual diving board.

If nothing else, just practicing your forward hurdle and back press on the floor will definitely help until you can get onto an actual diving board. I hope these suggestions help you. Good luck and keep up the good work!!


Mroz Atysix

New Diver

Newport, OR

6 posts since

Aug 03, 2010

#10 In response to:Diving is scary.

Aug 12, 2010

a carpet board sounds like what i could really use. I'll see about getting one. It sounds like just what i need to help me get over that ...it's hard to explain just what that feeling is while standing on the board over water, kind of like 'buck fever'.  I can stand on boards, logs, ect. but put it a yard over water and............
As far as water training, the aqua belt is the ticket for me.  Doing all those mental/physical exercise for each body group,(if there is such a thing)from just doing laps using arms while focusing on keeping legs tight and pointy toes, twists, pikes, squats, all those dry land exercises while floating with the belt, oh, and one thing i do just cuz i may have seen it in a movie, while in the pool, don't touch the sides of the pool, is that called a gutter? Also while doing these laps i try and stay over the black line on the bottom of the pool and keep an eye on the focus points if i where to ever need any.
 


Patti Z

Advanced Diver

Pleasant Hill, CA

60 posts since

Aug 11, 2009

#11 response to:Diving is scary.

Aug 12, 2010

Mroz Atysix

a carpet board sounds like what i could really use. I'll see about getting one. It sounds like just what i need to help me get over that ...it's hard to explain just what that feeling is while standing on the board over water, kind of like 'buck fever'.  I can stand on boards, logs, ect. but put it a yard over water and............
As far as water training, the aqua belt is the ticket for me.  Doing all those mental/physical exercise for each body group,(if there is such a thing)from just doing laps using arms while focusing on keeping legs tight and pointy toes, twists, pikes, squats, all those dry land exercises while floating with the belt, oh, and one thing i do just cuz i may have seen it in a movie, while in the pool, don't touch the sides of the pool, is that called a gutter? Also while doing these laps i try and stay over the black line on the bottom of the pool and keep an eye on the focus points if i where to ever need any.
 


Good - I'm glad that the idea helped you. I think the aqua belt is an interesting concept. Like I said, I have never heard of it in springboard diving, but if it works for you that is great! I see that you are from Oregon. Do you have a pool that you regularly work out at? There are a couple of diving options in Oregon that may work for you. I'm not sure if they are located close to you, but if they are, you may want to call and get some information on their programs:
Ontario, OR - 208-739-1573  or Lake Oswego, OR - 971-227-6495


Mroz Atysix

New Diver

Newport, OR

6 posts since

Aug 03, 2010

#12 In response to:Diving is scary.

Aug 13, 2010

there is a diving pool about  25 miles, about an hour drive this time of year. Thats okay cuz theres so much to develope before actually diving, right now i'm okay with just practicing riding the board and a few jumps into the pool off the board, which is probably a good thing to do at any pool at first because of the different pool depths.  At this pool, just jumping off the board with a baby bounce I still hit the bottom of the pool and with enough force yet to cause me to even squat on the bottom, hate to think of what a head first dive with really good hight would do.  That makes me ask,,What is the best angle to enter the water, as straight  veritical and tight, or what? and do you try and change your direction once you've entered the water?

 


Albert Bayhi

Novato, CA

7 posts since

Dec 31, 2009

#13 response to:Diving is scary.

Aug 15, 2010

Hay everyone let see if this will help you a little bit.Principles of  diving safety as you all should know.These are the following guidelinesthat i recommended for good diving safety: 1. In a head down head  position the first dive extend the arms with your  elbows locked along side of your head.Keep the hands together with the thumbs touching ( or at least interlocked ) with your palms facing torward the water.Make sure your arms,wrist and fingers are in line with the head it will help control the angle of your entry.This will reduces the fast and hard impact of the water on top of the head area and helps protect you from injury.In most of the head first dives a diver,s body should be tensed and straight from your head to the tip of your toes.As with sky diving you will develope a visual and kinesthetic awareness in spring board or plat form diving Start with a simple dive first and then realize that there are differences to how you apply  it to your skill level.A diver  can use differnt starting postions to do the same dive over and over again.I have found if you give your self time to master the skills of each step of your dive before moving on to fast to the next  you will be able to enjoy the over all experience.Rember a simple dive has tree concentrational parts:one the standing or stationary starting position; two what i call the moment of propulsional movment, also called the take off; three the water entry part. the end of your dive.


Mroz Atysix

New Diver

Newport, OR

6 posts since

Aug 03, 2010

#14 In response to:Diving is scary.

Aug 15, 2010













thanks for that info. There is sure alot to think about and execute all at the same time from top to bottom.  At first read it sounds , well that ain't so hard.  But take each word and apply in succession with each area, (quad?) How many places can the body bend? That'll keep me busy for awhile just trying to count.  One thing that I kind of hit on right off the bat, and maybe I'm way off base knowing that the dive ain't over till your out of the water, but there isn't to much to do once in the water but to get out of the water so the dive which in my mind now is just a little bit easieer cuze the important parts are the starting position, take off, entry,that includes to tippy toes, after that, its all gravy, just remember there is a bottom, don't breath, and get out of the water and probably a zillion other things that I'm sure I'll find out as time goes by.





















 


M G

Reims, FR

1 post since

Oct 06, 2010

#15 response to:Diving is scary.

Oct 06, 2010

hi guys

my name is greg and i m french and like like diving.

whene i was young, i m started with a great coach who learned technics and process for try my best.

for the beginning, you can try at the edge ot the swimming pool, with a sit position , your hands in front of your head, tense arms.

then , you can try stand up .....

if you had some questions, maybe a can help you !

by 


Patti Z

Advanced Diver

Pleasant Hill, CA

60 posts since

Aug 11, 2009

#16 In response to:Diving is scary.

Oct 07, 2010

Mroz Atysix

there is a diving pool about  25 miles, about an hour drive this time of year. Thats okay cuz theres so much to develope before actually diving, right now i'm okay with just practicing riding the board and a few jumps into the pool off the board, which is probably a good thing to do at any pool at first because of the different pool depths.  At this pool, just jumping off the board with a baby bounce I still hit the bottom of the pool and with enough force yet to cause me to even squat on the bottom, hate to think of what a head first dive with really good hight would do.  That makes me ask,,What is the best angle to enter the water, as straight  veritical and tight, or what? and do you try and change your direction once you've entered the water?

 


Hey Mroz,

A pool with a 1-meter springboard should be at least 10 feet deep, preferably 12 feet deep. It sounds like this pool is much shallower than that. Don't dive head first into a pool that is too shallow. It can be very dangerous. Also, regarding angle of entry -- it depends. In general, in order to get the best score, you want to land vertical. However, divers do perform underwater saves. "Saves" essentially change the direction of entry once the diver enters the water. If you want to learn more about these saves (similar to a somersault under water) take a look at iSports diving guide, "How to Do an Underwater Save in Diving." Here is the link:http://diving.isport.com/diving-guides/how-to-do-an-underwater-save-in-diving/

Hope that helps! -Patti

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